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    Posted: 02-June-2021 at 3:01PM
Originally posted by lynchster lynchster wrote:

Easiest way to remove the rear glass (after getting the trim off) is to just cut the top lip of the weatherstrip off. Glass lifts right out. 
I've done it once already but now that I'm just about ready to install the trim I might cut it out again. It seems to sit lower on one side. Now or never. 


Ah, very good, so they just used the old molded seals, not the sealant like today has urethane on front and back glass.
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Easiest way to remove the rear glass (after getting the trim off) is to just cut the top lip of the weatherstrip off. Glass lifts right out. 
I've done it once already but now that I'm just about ready to install the trim I might cut it out again. It seems to sit lower on one side. Now or never. 
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I agree that R&Ring the rear or front glass is risky. I would only let someone do it that I knew was very good at it.

That being said, it's common for any fixed window to have a water leak, the seals get very hard over 10-20 years. I have carefully smeared Ultra Black RTV along the top edge of three of my SUV's rear quarter glass windows.

If you could get at the entire interior glass perimeter, you could seal that up from the inside, and not be visible. On the outside you might choose to carefully tape along the outer seal, and then apply a thin coat of RTV. I like the Ultra Black etc, because it can take any kinds of weather or sun, and last forever. I have it on my house chimney to seal cracks in that cement, it's held for 15+ years so far.
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I have a question for you guys. My rear window leaks and it seems kind of risky for me to pull the glass out and reinstall it with a new gasket. Reason being that if anything breaks, like the trim around the glass or worst case the glass itself it will be almost impossible to find a replacement over here.
So I wonder if it might be possible to use this Butyl that was mentioned in the thread from the outside to seal the gasket back up? I'm thinking similar to the way you would seal a window in your house with acrylic/silicone if you know what I mean.

Seems a bit out there, what do you think? Geek
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yes the headliner is glued over the lip for the seal
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This is quite an interesting thread!
I have a brand new headliner still rolled up because I read that the glass needs to be taken out...Did I read correctly?
I was waiting so I can buy the weather-stripping I need because all of mine need replacing including the back glass weather-stripping of course...
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Does it only come in black?

Please post an update when you do get it installed.  I may have to replace mine when I get the funds to do a decent paint job on my car. 

 
 
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I have not...   I'm getting ready to start paint prep and strip it down.   I'm going to buy all the weather stripping first before starting to make sure it all fits and is correct.

I replaced my rear seal years ago because it leaked and search the USA for the part.   This took me months...none to be found for a fastback.  I eventually found one at Dennis Carpenter where it had dropped behind a shelf.   I bought it on the spot.   I swear it was the last one in the nation.   

I called Steele Rubber and had the support guy walk through the body and spec codes to make sure it was good for the fastback.   I plan to buy it soon and yes to my knowledge only black. 

PS in the past everytime I ordered a fastback rear window seal the supplier would send me the sedan rear seal.  Wow was that a pain.  They would often refuse to pay for shipping as well.   What an awful experience.


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John, have you installed this to confirm it actually fits?  I assume it only comes in black, not colour matched to the interior like OEM?
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FYI...
For 72/73 fastback rear window seal; body code 63R
 
No luck with Dennis Carpenter for a 72/73 Rear window seal;  704-786-8139
 
No luck from Metro Rubber; 800-878-2237
 
Only place I found is from Steele Rubber
 
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I recently ordered the following rear window seal from Dennis Carpenter for my 1972 sport fastback.
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Rear Window Seal
Item # D20Z-6342084-D
1$70.00$70.00

It is the correct seal for the fastback.
Quick shipping, good price, no problems.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ranchero Fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-August-2014 at 3:36AM
There was recent discussion on Ranchero.us with rear window rubber from Dearborn classics, being too long also. The person rec'd the correct one from Steel Rubber Prod., maybe give them a look or call. I never used them myself, so can't say they're your answer.
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Same problem here for a 73 formal,3 inches to big at the top bottom fits good though.wrong part from 2 different companies.macs and dennis carpenter my inside measurements is 127,they say 130.
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bringing this back to the top.
 
 
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DBC says they do not have any of the fastback seals. I just sent the one back they sent me. Way too short. It was marked fastback seal and what came was a formal top. Like I mentioned, it should be around 12.5 feet long. You might want to measure it.
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I have read this with interest, as I have a Sportroof that I will be replacing the roof on. Obviously, the glass will have to be removed (F & R), so I'll make sure to confirm the new gasket application. Many thanks, and I will be rounding up an extra set of hands for the job.
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Odd, I ordered the fastback seal from DBC and it looks right (seems to fit the outline of the window, but I have not pulled it yet.  I even mentioned the problems others have had when I ordered on line.


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DeadDead Guess what guys? The FUBAR continues with bot Dearborn, Carpenter and Autokrafters. I ordered a fastback seal from all three and each time I was sent a formal top or they called me a week later and said they could find it in their stock and had to credit my card. I even told each one of them and mentioned this forum and they said they "never heard of such a thing" and "we corrected the problem" and "of course it will fit a fastback, that 's what the number says".
Now I have a formal top rear window seal to send back. Anyone need one before I do this??

By the way, I even measured the stupid thing and called each tech department stating I needed them to measure the seal and it should be near 12.5 feet long.  "Well, we don't have one that long!"  NO KIDDING Shocked. "But the fastback one is here in the bag, according to the number". Boy, I guess they just don't get it.

OK..enough of the ranting. Anyone find a reputable supplier with a fastback seal?? The search continues.Ouch
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Jeff,yes I know that the glass can be installed by one person,I've installed alot, from heavy equipment glass,butyl in glass,with so much time invested on this car it would be just plain stupid not to have an extra set of experienced hands.don't you think?
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I install the back glass myself and it don't take 2 people,just myself and some 1/4 inch rope and
it goes right in.Never used another person even when it was a windshield with rubber gasket
John they are easy just make sure you use sealer or bedding compound under the gasket to seal from leaking
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At my job with the CT State Police,we use Payless auto glass for our glass work,One of there installers said that Payless can supply the correct gasket for our applications.Since I had gotten my own gasket,he said he would assist me with the install.with My friend/bodyguy still not feeling well,I'll probably take hime up on the offer as its a 2 person job,Iwonder if anyone as tried using a glass company for the install of rear glass using their gasket.It would be worth a call ,thats for sure.
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I am in the same boat as Jeff. I need to purchase one as well. It scars me to think that I will probably be commenting in the future about the same issue. Angry  There was a guy I met at Goodguys Scottsdale that had his glass guy use two seals to make one that fit. It did look good. Just don't know that I want to go that route.
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yah no big deal just figured if you still had it i would take it off your hands
i'm no rush to order one,just figured if you had it I could buy it  and save you the hassle of returning it
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Jeff.yes i returned the gasket.If I would have know,I would have brought it down to you when I pick-up the project hood.Sorry.when you do get one order it from Carpenter,their suppling krafters with their gasket and probably dearborn but I'm not positive on that.

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did yoy return the sportroof gasket?
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I called Dennis carpeter and they admitted that there was a problem before with gaskets being packaged incorrectly,(they supply krafters their gaskets).krafters probably had one of the problem gaskets still on their shelf.Carpenter said that they would ship out the correct gasket to me NO CHARGE,I didn't even purchase from them and their gonna make good for it,Thats great customer service.I recieved their gasket and it looks good.Clap

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Auto krafters says that don't have a listing for the fastback gasket any longer and(because it was the wrong gasket)they stopped selling it. Cammi ,the girl  at Auto Krafters,that originally took my order said that they have sold close to 150 formal D2OZ-6542084-D gaskets and only 3 were returned. I emailed auto krafters these pix.
I'll return the auto krafter gasket.contact Dennis carpenter directly and try to get the story.Talk about beating a dead horse!!!anybody have a new formal roof gasket to sell or trade for a fastback gasket?
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just order the fastback seal and you will get the formal roof gasket.
They got them backwards and guess they still haven't corrected the situation
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WTF! So  I order a rear window gasket for my 75 formal roof,from auto Krafters.Part #D2OZ-6542084-D. Way to big for formal roof,must be a fastback gasket,packaged 10/18/11 manufactured by Dennis Carpenter.I guess they still have a problem.WTF,I need a formal roof gasket,Does anybody have a contact name at carpenter that they have dicussed this problem with?krafters suggested I contact Carpenters to find an answer.Will post pic later of window gaskets, Later.Thanks John
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yes I would suggest putting the sealer on the outside lip or see if you can work some in with the caulk tube and some nylon tools to lift the gasket slightly and get the sealer between the gasket and metal lip that is what keeps the water seeping between the gasket and seals the water from getting inside
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