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Altho I've not posted any Tomato progress reports for a while, I have gotten the undercarriage all cleaned up from the tail panel to the firewall. Need to do the underside of the chassis below the engine and then cleanup the front disc and rear brake components. Several areas I'm not able to get to so I'll have to wait and address them when I pull the engine and transmission again. Still need to cleanup the core support and the engine as best I can then start putting things back together to get ready for the journey to the next body shop.... hopefully right after the holidays!!!
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Posted: 30-October-2023 at 1:38AM |
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I'm hoping for you too Joe. Finding a top body shop it tough for sure. I don't know of one here either, I was planning to contact one in KY that used to be respected a lot. Now since so many years has passed, I'm planning to ask one of my route customers that I know does his own projects. He has a small two bay garage that he is almost finished with a 75 Corvette in, plus a speed boat; both look great. He's in his 60's but I don't know if he would take on any work for anyone. So I wish you good luck, and myself later when I get that far.
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Posted: 29-October-2023 at 10:36PM |
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Not a lot to show for October Tomato wise, but I have talked to a couple local shops and heard about a couple more this weekend that I'm going to reach out to this week and see if they might be interested in adding the colors to the ole girl..... and started cleaning up the undercarriage this past weekend.
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Posted: 04-October-2023 at 1:31PM |
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Keep going Joe, you are making progress. You got this!
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Posted: 04-October-2023 at 1:42AM |
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Looking good Joe. Any steps forward are good steps! That was cool method of making a template for the fender emblem holes.
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Posted: 02-October-2023 at 12:14AM |
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Mike,
Yep, as closely as possible, except mine is a bucket seat, floor shift, console car.... 460 automatic, 3:89 posi, hd suspension, quick ratio ps, pw, pdl, power driver's bucket, automatic seat back releases, rw defroster, dual chrome remote mirrors, dual 2 1/2" exhaust w/cutouts and a few custom touches... power antenna, custom upholstery with rear seat arm rest w/pass thru to trunk. My front fender stripe point won't be as high up on the fender as the #1 Hero Torino shown below... plan on the lower edge to eyebrow about a half inch off the wheel lip molding before continuing straight to just above the side light marker on the body line and the white of the point ending at the edge of the headlight bucket.....  IF I live long enough to get her done and enjoy the fruits of my labor a bit!!
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Posted: 01-October-2023 at 6:46PM |
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Looking good Joe! I didn't realize you were keeping the side impact moldings on your Torino. Are you replicating the Seasons 2-4 S&H Torino?
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Posted: 01-October-2023 at 12:00AM |
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Made some headway the last couple weeks but not a lot to brag about....
Made a front fender template so I could locate the body side molding and GRAN TORINO emblems mounting holes on my driver's side fender.....            and also applied a coat of POR-15 and a initial coat of Eastwood Satin Chassis Black to the pass thru bracket I made so the rear seat arm rest access panel would open into the trunk like it did on the arm rest donor car....   Next plan of attack is to get under the car and start getting the underbody, chassis and suspension cleaned back up.
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Posted: 17-September-2023 at 3:12AM |
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Joe, Keep at it, you can view the two months as a recharge. Sounds promising with looking at new body shops. Good idea to preview them first to see their work and how they operate. Good luck, Chris
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Posted: 17-September-2023 at 1:02AM |
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Well has been a very UNPRODUCTIVE two months for the Torino, but I did get my Fairlane wagon and my Fiero dusted off and driving again.
Attended a local cars & coffee event yesterday morning in the wagon before heading to the dealership to meet with another bodyshop about taking on the Tomato and getting her colors applied like I want. I met with another shop the previous Saturday, so once I get the numbers back from the second shop, I'll request a shop tour of both facilities and examples of their work to see which one I feel most comfortable turning the car over to. FINGERS CROSSED!!
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Posted: 02-July-2023 at 1:34AM |
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Well after a couple non-productive weekends tinkering with my wagon, FINALLY some Tomato progress.... got her back up in the air and the wheels off so I can get under her and clean up the underside and suspension.
    So next weekend I will get started cleaning her up.... hopefully things will clean up as nicely as the top side did!! Edited by TV 2M8O - 02-July-2023 at 2:02AM |
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Posted: 21-June-2023 at 5:25PM |
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Looking good again.
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Posted: 18-June-2023 at 9:10AM |
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I worked on my Fairlane wagon this weekend so there was no Torino progress, but I did get the trunk cleaned up last weekend....
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Posted: 10-June-2023 at 11:08AM |
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Thanks for any of the knowledge you learned, it helps someone with their projects from reading it. I've learned just a tiny amount from being around body shops and helping friends with their painting. So yes I'm poised to make many of the same mistakes as others do, but I hope I remember enough to select the best products, the right steps etc.
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Posted: 10-June-2023 at 2:48AM |
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Don, for the chassis components and undercarriage of the car, I sandblasted everything first, then cleaned with the POR-15 Metal Prep, shot the POR-15 black and then while it was still slightly tacky, top coated the POR-15 with the first (of three) coat of Eastwood Satin Chassis Black. THAT'S the secret for getting paint to stick to the POR-15 without having to scuff the cured paint for additional coats. Once POR-15 dries, NOTHING will adhere to it properly!
That's the problem I ran into on the interior sheetmetal of my build. I painted all the interior metalwork with POR-15 and then allowed it to dry because I hadn't planned on applying a top coat. After seeing how nice the underside and suspension pieces turned out, that's when I decided to apply a coat of Chassis Black. I read where someone had shot the POR-15 with a wet coat of lacquer thinner to soften it and then apply the top coat. I had never used a paint gun in my life, so needless to say I was in over my head from the start! Well I shot a wet coat of thinner onto everything thing and had the black ready to go once I had that applied, but the air was set a bit too high on the line to the gun so the paint was atomized to the point that it was dry by the time it got to the car so it did not adhere properly. After seeing how "flat" the finish was and a bit of digging, I figured out my mistakes and applied a second coat of the Chassis Black.... well as they say you finish coat is only as good as your prep work, so needless to say it was doomed to failure!! So now I will get the sheetmetal cleaned back up and then scuff it really well with ScotchBrite pads to not only get the remaining loose paint off but to also put a tooth to the POR-15 so my next attempt at top coating the interior metal will be a bit more successful! LIVE AND LEARN
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Posted: 08-June-2023 at 1:22PM |
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Mixing different coatings, and brands, is as important as the various chemicals alone. I used the Eastwood Rust Encapsulator on 3/4 of the frame of my 99 Explorer, and a good bit of it let go without much help from chemicals, sun, or forces. I've used enough of that on 2-3 projects to think the POR 15 is better. I've only used POR 15 once, a friend's truck on a few parts like control arms and floor boards. They are both easy to apply, but how to prepare each for coating over them is much different. I hope the POR 15 takes top coating better also than the Eastwood. The one product Eastwood makes that I love in that genre is the Rust Dissolver. I used it long before, when it was called Oxysolv or something like that, I had a gallon. It is water thin, it applies easily by spraying or soaking, I loved that it seeps into seams, it wicks into any seam or crack, such as under the floor or rockers, getting into the seams where rust begins. It can be painted over after a couple of hours, and being wiped down like prep solvent for pre-paint prep. I'm sure SEM is great too for what they make, I hope to learn more about all of them near future with my projects.
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Posted: 07-June-2023 at 11:28PM |
CJ, the POR-15 was only compromised where the SUPER CLEAN had leaked out. What did however peel/blow off was the top coat of Eastwood Chassis Black where I didn't prep the POR-15 properly for the top coat. I'm a firm believer in POR-15 after years ago I got a sample of it and painted a 11ga piece of steel on both side with a brush and then when it dried the stuff was glass smooth. Then to torture test it, I bent the piece back and forth until it broke along the bend line and THE POR-15 HAD NOT FLAKED OFF!! I was sold on that stuff ever since. After blasting and cleaning the underside/chassis of my car, I painted it with two coats of POR-15 followed up with two coats of Eastwood Satin Chassis Black. When I get under the car in a few weeks to begin the reclean of the underside of the car, I'll see how well that application held up....
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Posted: 07-June-2023 at 9:20PM |
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#18 on your list... take POR 15 and walk over to the trash and toss it in
 i can see in your pic where you removed the sound deadener and it just peeled off! just blowing dust off of mike's frame... the por 15 just blew off  the more i see where its been used to more im not impressed with iti prefer the SEM rust shield... has UV inhibitors in it, can be brushed or sprayed, adheres much better, works great for a quick blackout for trunks and interior metal structure! actually i'd spray raptorliner on the floor pan... nice texture, and tough, and a nice moister barrier too, helps a little with heat barrier and sound deadening, not a lot but every little bit helps (word of advice... mask everything before you spray it even if its just sheets or blankets or plastic to cover the stuff to keep the overspray off ) |
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True, a real V8 engine is a lot for a lower end engine stand. I have a cheap one, my first I used in 1980 for my first 351C. But later I bought a HF large four leg type, with extra bracing it is rated to 1000lbs. It was under $100 back in the late 80s, and when HF was located just in CA.
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how's it hangin? not sure i'd get too close to that, personally i'd opt for the 2 tires on a decent furniture dolly. i don't trust those bargain 3 leggers for much more than a bare small block, maybe a head  |
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Other than hanging the new TO DO LIST on the Torino and putting a small piece of trunk weatherstrip on the body to keep the decklid off the sheetmetal, nothing was done to the car.... BUT I did get the original 460 off the floor and onto my engine stand after several years of setting on a couple of old tires. Tired of it being in the way so now I can roll it wherever it needs to go and police my work area a bit.     That is one HEAVY chunk of cast iron!!
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Posted: 29-May-2023 at 10:30AM |
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John, Wow - that was a great list! I bookmarked that page. Thank you! Chris |
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If there is anyone interested in detailing products, what work, and what sucks, visit M6G forum and find the thread "DFB5.0's Little Black Book Of Detailing". Thank me later. |
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Chris, This is the stuff I'm using.... it's not a national brand though.  But it rivals some of the other big name cleaners I've used!
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Joe, That cleaned up nice. What is the foaming cleaner you used? Thanks, Chris
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Well on Saturday of this holiday weekend, I was able to clean all the crap off of the interior of the car. My pictures didn't turn out to well, so hopefully these few will illustrate how well she cleaned up....
     Next week I'll revise my TO DO LIST and then next weekend, I'll climb into the trunk (THAT should be fun!!) and get that area all cleaned up. Once all the inside of the car has been cleaned I'll then scuff all the areas, reapply the seam sealer and POR-15 as necessary and reshoot all the inside of the car again with Eastwood Satin Chassis Black. She's really cleaning up a LOT easier than I thought she would. Once I get all the inside of the car wrapped up, I'll put her back in the air and attack the underside.
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Been a bit negligent in keeping my thread up to date but there was some real progress again the past two weekends.
Last weekend I hung a TO DO LIST on the C pillar and got after it...  I cleaned up the firewall and front frame and suspension (as best I could from top side). Used the foaming cleaner a friend who details our company trucks gave to me and man did it do a good job! Sprayed it on and let it soak for a few minutes then hit it with a hogs hair brush to scrub it and get down into the areas simply wiping with a rag wouldn't get into and WOW what a difference....                        I also attempted to second coat the dash but wasn't happy with how it was going so I put that off until I can figure out how to duplicate the grain. Next post I'll cover what I accomplished this weekend....
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YEA, reuploaded the pics that went MIA and now they are back in my earlier post!
So this weekend I worked on the rest of my TO DO LIST and got everything knocked off... Finished pulling the old foam insulation off the driver's side floor.....    cleaned the passenger side footwell where the SUPER CLEAN (not PURPLE POWER) had leaked out (lifted the Eastwood Chassis Black and the POR-15 in a few areas).......  so now all the old insulation has been removed.....    drilled the pilot hole for the wires to exit the interior.....  removed all the lines/hoses from the radiator, transmission and power steering coolers and pulled the core support assembly back off the car.     DAMN, I don't remember that thing being that heavy..... but I did initially remove everything piece by piece back in the day..... when I was younger!
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Yes, that is pretty much what happened. That has never happened here before, so hopefully it's a one time anomaly. Here is the message our Webmaster Scott received: The web server that your forum is hosted on had to be rolled back on the 12th of April to a backup taken on 8th of April due to a hacker using a vulnerable WordPress website running an out-of-date version of WordPress on the same server as your forum to upload a web shell that used a zero-day vulnerability in windows server to gain system privileges to infect all the websites with malware. Microsoft fixed the zero-day vulnerability in a patch the following week, but we had to roll back the web server to clean all the infected websites. This would explain why some of the uploaded images are missing as any images uploaded between the 8th and 12th of April would have been lost when the server was rolled back. |
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Now that the roof is completed at the dealership, I pulled the Tomato outa the paint booth and formulated a plan of attack to start getting her cleaned back up. After starting a TO DO LIST, I started removing the foil back insulation I had applied to the floor several years ago because I knew there would be pockets of water trapped underneath from pressure washing everything a few weeks back.
I was right and also surprised how much body shop crud had gotten under the insulation and collected in several areas. I also discovered the PURPLE POWER jug hadn't sealed completely and leaked out onto the passenger side front footwell. Looks like it lifted the Eastwood Chassis Black but can't tell just yet if it also attacked the POR-15.....
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